Jonathan Karl saw the chaos, vengeance, and factional warfare bubbling within Donald Trump's political empire and reported it in his new book Tired of Winning, which is out today. Declan, who worked on research for the book, meets up with Jonathan to discuss the internecine drama, Bannon gossip, the dangers of 2024, and the process of reporting on Trump world.
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Declan Garvey is the publisher of The Dispatch and is based in Washington, D.C. Prior to joining the company in 2019, he worked in public affairs at Hamilton Place Strategies and market research at Echelon Insights. When Declan is not assigning and editing pieces, he is probably watching a Cubs game, listening to podcasts on 3x speed, or trying a new recipe with his wife.
